Comments on: Leadership Is Not Management (but you need both)

By: Unconcerned Citizen

Unconcerned Citizen — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:49:57 +0000

Most informative.

Much obliged,
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By: Ross

Ross — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:15:52 +0000

Blue Sail Creative – much thanks for the resources you’ve recommended.

By: Blue Sail Creative

Blue Sail Creative — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:12:56 +0000

This is exactly what I am talking about with my staff on a daily basis. We try to promote good management by executing on specific systems. We follow the rule book of Sam Carpenter in “Work the System” and also with E-Myth.

I highly recommend both of those for management tips.

By: Ross

Ross — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:31:46 +0000

Bruce – you’re right that sometimes, the approaches I discuss in the video are not the exclusive domains of leaders or managers. Some managers do indeed lead. And some leaders manage. Having said that, many people confuse the terms and think that any manager is a leader, and that any leader is a manager. As you and I appear to agree – that’s a misconception.

Thanks for enriching the discussion here.

By: Bruce Lynn

Bruce Lynn — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:35:45 +0000

I agree that there is a distinction between ‘Leadership’ and ‘Management’ (in fact, I have been blogging about just this distinction for over 4 years at http://brucelynnblog.spaces.live.com/). I understand the observations that you are making and some have some merit. Unfortunately, I think you are confusing ‘means’ with ‘ends’. Yes, ‘Leaders’ and ‘Manager’ do some of the things that you describe. However, I think that the approaches that you describe are not the exclusive domains of each. Leaders can “manipulate resources” and Managers can “set clear a clear vision” and “provide the right tools”.

My own definition of the difference lies in the “ends’ (outcomes) that each is focused on. Leaders optimise the upside; Manager minimise the downside risks. I do concur with the bottom line of this post that having both together in balance is critical to a healthy organisation.

By: Ross

Ross — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:49:15 +0000

mostwanted – some people are fortunate to have both sets of skills, but most don’t. But it’s important to understand for yourself what you’re better at doing – because that will save you a lot of aggravation and will help you surround yourself with people that complement you.

By: mostwanted

mostwanted — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:46:35 +0000

so i can tell from this distinction more and more that i want to be a leader, not just a manager

don’t get me wrong, i enjoy working directly with people on a project, but i really appreciate asking a lot of questions along the way, not pretending like i have the definitive answer to something that i am leading people to, but instead that i am a sort of cosmological guide participating in a way to bring the design of something to an optimal and amazing point in space and time

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